If AIDS is a HOAX...

[Mr. Muhammad]

...then WHAT are all these alleged "AIDS Victims" dying from???

RM

[Mr. Muhammad]

Sis. Yolanda...

I thank you for your efforts to share.

But...I think you are a little hasty in labelling me a "disbeliever".

I don't say that HIV/AIDS is "not" a hoax...and I don't say it "is" a hoax.

What I am saying is it will take more than "hear-say" for me to decide either way.

Have you done tests yourself, with medical equipment to search for this virus?

How many people must be tested to conclude that a virus "does not exist"?

None of what you have presented logically "proves" that HIV does not exist. At best it proves that the TEST for HIV is ineffective, which is far more plausible...since, by default it is nearly impossible to "prove" a "negative", anyway.

In addition, it could be argued that "HIV DOES exist, but it is treatable or curable by proper diet and lifestyle changes."

Thanks again, Sis.

Peace.

RM

[Yolanda]

No, I have never used the medical equipment to conduct the testing myself, because it's impossible to test for something that nobody has EVER seen. If HIV were real, you could reasonably draw someone's blood, place it under an electron microscope and see it. You can't do this, because it isn't there.

The scientific literature backs that up. And don't say we're still getting other sources, because your very own video was a "source." If you were to study everything you know about life, at least 99 percent would be based on a "source." There's nothing new under Ra. And nobody has all the answers, which is why some things depend on others providing some of those and us, in return, using good judgment backed by research.

My experiences are real-life experiences. I have seen this system. Matter of fact, as Brother Keidi knows, I see it every day. I KNOW the hoax for what it is. In the end, my job isn't to convince you of anything. You are always free to form your own basis of existence. I can only go on my experiences, as you can only go on yours.

Peace and blessings in abundance . . .

[Brother Eric]

To say that something exists, definitively, you must first have proof of its existence. HIV has not been isolated; therefore, there is no proof of it. The people who said they discovered HIV were exposed by their peers.

In my opinion, it is not prudent to accept a claim like HIV=AIDS as fact without supporting evidence.

[Mr. Muhammad]

Peace, Reggie...

What I find interesting is that so many people in these kinds of forums say "religious people should think for themselves", and when one actually DOES think for himself, or herself, and refuse to just go along with the party line, then that person is being unreasonable.

I never said that AIDS/HIV was "not" a Hoax. I'm saying I don't buy the arguments that have been presented that it "is" a hoax.

You said that "one doesn't have to be a scientist to know the truth."

Obviously, this is true. However, we must ask the question:

What must one do to "know the truth" of a thing?

What is the basis of "Knowing" or "knowledge"?

Can one "know" a thing without direct "experience"?

If you claim to "know" the truth of this, I am within my rights to ask what direct experience do you have in this field that justifies your claim to "know" that this disease does not exist.

Or, are you just taking someone's word for it? If you are, that's fine...just say that. But don't boast to "know" what you have not "experienced". Just say you "believe" it to be true...and I will say "ok".

Peace.

RM

[Reggie]

Brother, I have done due diligence and have discuss it with doctors, scientists, etc. No, I have not had HIV/Aids, but I have talked to someone who did and is very knowledgeable regarding the subject, Christine Maggiore. I never been to Africa either, but I know that it exist. You have asked legit questions, but all of your questions regarding this subject has been answered. We haven't dodged your questions, but you are not checking on the info that has been given to you. You just come up with more questions. I would understand if you looked at what we presented. You can look at the out-dated Strecker Memoradum, but you can't check out the 'Other Side of Aids' or read 'Aids Hoax' by Keidi Awadu. Its not that I believe its true, I know its not. I encourage u to think for self, but also learn how to take what's given and research so that you will know whether or not it's true.

[Mr. Muhammad]

Bro. Reggie...

Knowing that Africa exists and "knowing" that a virus does NOT exist are NOT the same thing.

Africa is there for all to see...and yes, I have been there on more than one occasion.

But a microscopic virus, which takes specialized knowledge and equipment to detect or identify...knowledge and equipment that is not readily available to the common person. It takes greater effort to substantiate such a claim. More than just hear-say.

I don't care how many people you cite. They may in fact be correct in their assertions...I don't know what direct experience they have had with the issue, but I reserve the right to question them about it.

If you tell me you "know" such a thing, I am going to ask you what is the Basis of your "knowing"...have you had any direct experience with such. Or, are you simply taking the word of another whom you trust? There's nothing wrong with that...but don't pee in my face and tell me it's raining...lol...I'm not gonna go for that.

If you tell me you "know", I'm going to ask you "How" you know...and if you cannot show me where you have had direct experience with the subject that would yield such "knowing", then I respectfully say that you don't "know"...you "believe". And again, that's ok...nothing wrong with that...as long as you have sufficient evidence to support your "belief".

That's why I said, if you tell my that you believe it to be true, that settles it. I have nothing to say about your belief...because that is yours. All I can say is "ok".

Peace.

RM

[Brother Eric]

To answer your questions Mr. Muhammad

Nope, I am not a credentialed scientist, but I do interact with credentialed scientist within the health care industry.

Also, I do have access to published medical literature and data that I am very capable of reading and understanding for myself.

So to answer you question regarding do I examine AIDS patients?
The answer is no as that is not my line of work. Have I interacted with people who believed that they had the disease the answer is yes.(Granted one woman is still still living and was diagnosed over 10 years ago).

Am I just accepting someone else's word?

The answer is no. To study means to investigate, to learn and to gain understanding in a subject. Based from what I understand within the already well established medical literature used to determine the existence of biological pathogens and diseases, I can certainly see for myself that the science surrounding AIDS is not supported by this previous medical literature. Also I can certainly see for myself that the statistical devastation that AIDS was suppose to produce is not reflective in the population.

So not only do I benefit from and stand on the backs of people who do the work in this fields, but it is only prudent for me to study, verify and do the work for myself.

Although, I am not going around looking under an electron microscope at tissue from patients said to have the mythical AIDS virus, this does not impair my logical, reasoning facilities that I use to determine whether something is Junk Science or not.

Thanks for your input brother.

[Mr. Muhammad]

What did I say that is not TRUE?

RM

[Minister 8-Ball]

Then, let's ask those who are well-researched in this field like Keidi, Rev. Valentine, Bro. Dhejuty or Dr. Llaila O. Afrika, since they've done the most intense research that I know on it.

That way, your questions can be answered.

[Reggie]

It wouldn't matter he would just asked the same questions instead of researching what is given. We've actually given him the resources by these scholars yet he continues to ask irrelevant questions

[Minister 8-Ball]

Let's just provide him with the "footsteps" to follow so that he can draw his own conclusions. Whatever he chooses to accept or deny, it must be based on credible information and sources.

Malcolm taught that when a man is in a position to see, think hear and judge for himself, he will never go wrong. We owe him that much.

[Reggie]

Thank u brother 8-ball, you are right.